Nov 192013
 

dermaroller headsMy vanity isn’t a passive one. While I have no interest in spa treatments, hair salons, or fashion, I do invest a considerable amount of time, effort, and money in the care and maintenance of my skin.

One of my recent vanity-related purchases is a ‘dermaroller.’ It’s a device used for ‘microneedling,’ a process by which the skin is injured with needles, prompting the skin to heal itself (ultimately stimulating collagen growth to improve skin texture, smooth fine lines, and even out skin tone).

That’s the beauty stuff, but you’re reading for the BDSM stuff, right?
Be patient! I’m getting there! (You see where I’m going with this…)

In terms of design, the dermaroller is fairly simple (crude, really). Basically, it’s a roller of small needles attached to a handle. The most popular rollers have 192 needles, but they can be purchased with less or more (all the way up to 540 needles). Needle length ranges from 0.2 mm up to 3.0 mm.

dermaroller head comparison

540 needles, 2.0mm (left) • 192 needles, 1.5mm (right)

My first dermaroller purchase was a ‘standard’ model with 192 needles of 1.5mm length.

‘Dermarolling’ isn’t painless. I take pain fairly well, but this thing fucking hurts. The first pass isn’t awful, but the suggested use for most promising results recommends multiple passes in each of eight directions. Rolling the same swath of skin over and over in multiple directions is painful.

And depending on skin thickness in any particular area, it draws blood.

After using it for the first time, I realized two things:

1) Fucking OUCH. (Since that first time, I’ve come to learn that a good stiff drink or three makes puncturing my skin with hundred of needle sticks infinitely more tolerable. It doesn’t make it any less painful, but it makes me brave enough to get past the hesitation that comes before the pain.)

2) I accidentally found a new sadistic ouchie toy! These dermaroller things are great BDSM pervertibles.


Dermaroller as BDSM Implement (FUN!):

A dermaroller is like a Wartenburg wheel… but way better! Instead of 22 tines, it’s got 192 (or 540!). Instead of making someone feel as if their skin is being broken, you can actually break the skin. It’s fucking delightful.

dermarollers

dermastamp 35 needles, 3.0mm (left) • selections from my collection • dermaroller 192 needles, 2.0mm (right)

After having used dermarollers a few times, I don’t know if I look any better, but I love the results on J. :)

The beauty of the thing as a BDSM toy (for me, at least) is that it’s relatively predictable and precise. It draws just enough blood to be hot, without drawing so much that it’s gross or an unmanageable mess. I can control it. I can control the pressure, speed, number of passes, and I can see what I’m doing as I’m doing it.

Plus, I can build the pain incrementally — rolling over the same place several times increases the pain and irritation and makes angry tracks of red, raised, ever-so-abraided flesh. More passes means more pain, more irritation, and more (and more) pinpricks of blood… running together in a beautiful mess of ‘fucking hot.’


(Potential) Off-Label Uses:

dermaroller BDSM toy

  • These things are great for drawing crude designs or making stripes over large areas of flesh (think backs, stomachs, chests, and thighs). Keep in mind that turning the roller or rolling on a curved path will do more damage to the skin.
  • They’re also great for choosing a small area and quickly rolling back and forth with short strokes. It fucking hurts! (trust me, I’ve used it on my face)
  • Particularly ‘effective’ (painful!) areas of the body include the tops of feet, ribcage, collarbones, and anywhere else that’s bony. Basically, if it would hurt (lots) to get a tattoo there, it will hurt (lots) to use the roller there. Also, despite the extra flesh over the bones, I’ve found that the backs of thighs and the undersides of butt cheeks are particularly sensitive.
  • Slowly roll up your partner’s thigh towards their man junk or lady bits. Stop just before their thigh crease, ease up on the pressure and roll back to start. Repeat towards their thigh crease again, increasing the pressure a little each time. Repeat until the roller is sunk into their thigh crease and they’re petrified that you’re going to roll it right over their business. (I do not roll over J’s business… yet. Genitals have a fuck-ton of tiny blood vessels, and given the number of needles, that could make for a lot of blood. At some point, I do want to try it on his cock, maybe with little tiny needles — the 0.2mm kind — for science!)
  • If you’re interested in sensation play without (or with minimal) blood, opt for a denser needle count. If you enjoy drawing blood, get a model with fewer needles. In my experience, the 192 needle model draws way more blood (more easily) than the 540 model (even though the 540 has longer needles). It has to do with surface area and needle distribution or velocity or something like that… or not. I don’t do science, but you can trust me on this one.
  • Dermastamps are fun, too, but nearly as much fun as the rollers. Dermastamping involves hitting the same area several times. I find that ‘stamping’ the same area repeatedly (and in quick succession) is more numbing than painful. The movement of the rollers is what makes it fantastic, but I imagine the artistic types among us might enjoy stampers for their small size and precision for making marks.

Safety, Warnings, [1] & Cost:

Dermarollers can be cleaned with soap and water or rubbing alcohol, but they can’t be sanitized. The needles are embedded in a plastic roller — because it’s not all one piece, I’m sure blood seeps into the holes where the needles are embedded in the plastic roller. Because these can’t be sanitized, they should only be shared between fluid bonded partners. Better yet, get your own.

I have no fucking idea about the possibilities infection, scarring, or any other type of adverse reaction or result. I make no claims about anything except my own personal experience. We’ve had no problems, but it’s not as if I’ve tested these things extensively (any volunteers for further testing?)  ;)

Needles of any kind dull over time. For this reason, and because these can’t really be sanitized, I consider them semi-disposable. After a couple of uses, (or if any of the needles look bent or damaged,) I toss it and get a new one. Replacing it from time to time is the easiest way to keep the risk of infection and scarring low (lower, at least). Plus, they’re cheap as fuck — just $13 on Amazon[2] in the US. :)

 


[1] Dumb Domme™ LLC, WTF, & LOL, and associates are not liable for material or virtual damages, nor any physical, mental, or emotional injury incurred from information provided on this website, including (but not limited to) the application of dermarollers to individuals for fun and amusement. I’m not recommending anything here… I’m simply sharing. Got it?
[2] I am not an Amazon affiliate. I’m not an anything affiliate.

 

  24 Responses to “dermaroller: kinky, sadistic, and fun!”

  1. *runs off to buy some* FOR SCIENCE!

    Also, I’ll come volunteer, too!

    Seriously, it sounds like so much fun/pain! :D

  2. Ooookay, definitely filing this away in the “Things to casually suggest” pile.

    I’m not sure whether I’m more intrigued or scared of what these can do.

    • definitely filing this away in the “Things to casually suggest” pile.

      Hmm… I’m wondering how you can casually suggest something like this… “Ohai… Do you want to go grab a cup of coffee and maybe… I dunno, roll hundreds of needles over my ass cheeks?”

      :D

  3. Wow! That does sounds like quite a creative find! Does J get to have that drink or three too? Would be fun to see a photo of the artwork created. :)

    I can imagine a 3mm one over a bony area could be a little extra painful and potentially create some problems (e.g., avoid hitting the bone surface itself…)

    • Does J get to have that drink or three too?

      He does, but not necessarily before the needling. :) Also, since a drink or three doesn’t necessarily dull the pain (just makes me less hesitant to bite the bullet and stick the thing on my face), so I’m not sure if it would effect him all that much.

      Would be fun to see a photo of the artwork created. :)

      J was already well-decorated with artwork before I got him. :) He has so much ink that it would be difficult to get a photo of any area big enough for my own ‘artwork’ without catching any designs that might jeopardize his anonymity. I guess I could take some closeups of an ink-free area somewhere… I don’t think the backs of his knees are covered… :)

      I did think about it, though! I might just roll my arm and take some photos so people can get an idea of what the marks look like.

      I can imagine a 3mm one over a bony area could be a little extra painful and potentially create some problems (e.g., avoid hitting the bone surface itself…)

      True (and good point about potential problems). I tried (briefly) to find some info on the maximum needle length safe to avoid hitting bone in different areas, but haven’t come up with anything yet. I’ll do some Google-fu later on to see if I can find some information.

      Thanks for the comment, DC. It’s always nice to see you around these parts. :)

      that with the exception of a really, really close up shot somewhere ink-free

      • “I tried (briefly) to find some info on the maximum needle length safe to avoid hitting bone in different areas, but haven’t come up with anything yet.”

        That’s probably because there is no hard and fast rule. Bone will be further from air on the foot of someone who has a lot of body fat covering a lot of muscle tissue than it will on someone who has almost none. And that doesn’t even take in things like swelling due to medical conditions. (Because you’re most likely to find something like this being studied in a medical community, not a kink or other community.) However, the thickest parts of the skin alone is only (on average) 1.5mm. The thinnest skin is on the face and there is only a very very thin layer of muscle under the skin on the forehead. (OK, I admit I’m assuming here that you are rolling the area of the forehead since it’s one of the few areas that gets wrinkles… and really the eye area skin is the thinnest on the entire body soooo…) So you have rolled over your own body on some of the absolute boniest and thinnest areas. You seem to be ok. I wouldn’t worry toooooooo much about it.

        Also, since I seem to be leaving a comment, I will just say that the genitalia are built tough. Really tough. They heal faster than pretty much any other part of the body because, you know… survival of the species! However, it *is* prone to bleeding. Especially if we are talking about manly bits. And you *would* want to pay attention to the depth if you are going to roll over the shaft of the penis so you don’t damage the corpus cavernosa. Unless you guys don’t care if he can get hard… In which case, knock yourselves out! ;) Also, at such an inexpensive price, I’d suggest that it might be best to consider it a one-time-use toy. But that’s coming strictly form a medical background! Everyone has different comfort levels with their kinks.

        • That’s probably because there is no hard and fast rule.

          Of course. As you said, everyone is different. With that said, there has to be some information out there about the ‘maximum’ recommended needle length for dealing with different parts of the body. I imagine with the rise of dermal fillers and other cosmetic injectables, there are rough guidelines.

          Because you’re most likely to find something like this being studied in a medical community, not a kink or other community.

          I know. :) I didn’t mean I was looking for info from kink sites — I was looking at MedLine/PubMed.

          So you have rolled over your own body on some of the absolute boniest and thinnest areas. You seem to be ok. I wouldn’t worry toooooooo much about it.

          No, I’m not worried about it, but other people might be, and should be informed. (I feel somewhat responsible for at least looking into it, since I’ve suggested dermarollers as a fun toy… heh… I’m too responsible… look at me Mom, I told you I was responsible!!!).

          Also, at such an inexpensive price, I’d suggest that it might be best to consider it a one-time-use toy. But that’s coming strictly form a medical background!

          Good advice. :) I use them a couple of times, but I probably should think of them as one-time only. They’re cheap enough…

          Thanks for the comment and the information, Anonymous. :)

  4. Something for the Christmas wish list, I think!

    A local friend who makes his own BDSM toys, saw me do an impact-play scene with a friend at a party and decided I needed MOAR fun/torture implements. He made me what I call the Wartenburg Wheel on Steroids. Basically a standard issue paint roller, covered with a tight-fitting (reinforced with silicone sticky something or other so it doesn’t slip off) rubber hose piece into which rows and rows of really sharp tiny nails have been embedded (pointy end out). It doesn’t draw blood easily (a plus for me, ymmv) but boy do you FEEL it. And the visual alone of that thing is enough to make even the most stoic go wide-eyed and tremble just a little.

    I like these smaller, pointier, more EVIL things, though drawing blood is not my thing. Definitely something to add to the toy bag. Thanks!

    • And the visual alone of that thing is enough to make even the most stoic go wide-eyed and tremble just a little.

      Ha! I can imagine! Wow… a paint roller… with nails? That would certainly make me go wide-eyed. *shiver*

      I like these smaller, pointier, more EVIL things, though drawing blood is not my thing.

      If you want to avoid the blood, try one of the rollers with denser needles. It’s much harder to draw blood — to do so, you have to use a lot of pressure. Plus, the bonus of the heads with way more needles is that they’re much scarier looking (though they don’t do as much damage).

      Or, you could get a less dense roller with shorter needles. I’ve read the 0.5mm needles don’t cause any bleeding (though I haven’t used one that short and of course, everyone is different).

  5. This is the first time I’ve read one of your posts and thought, “No. Oh, no. Fuck no. Fuck that. Nope. Nuh uh. NOPE!” Consider me squicked.

    • Needles not your thing, huh? I get it. :) I don’t take it personally.

      But with that said… don’t knock it until you try it. ;)

      • Actually, more typical needle play (stick it through and leave it there, maybe make some designs with multiple needles) kind of fascinates me. I saw it at my first dungeon party, and I was torn between “I can’t watch” and “I can’t look away.” I’ve done a very minute amount of needle play. I’ve even done a minute amount of needle play with my ex. The first time was just two needles, crossed under my skin on my shoulder. The other time was four needles in my lower back; the really wild thing was that my wrists were tied to the needles with string, so if I moved my hands, it tugged on the needles.

        But this is a horse of a different color. The needleplay I’ve done isn’t about working an area over until it’s raw and bleeding.

  6. Have been working with dermarollers for many years now – this is the first time I hear such interesting use for these cool tools :)

    • Ha! Well, I’m glad I introduced you to another exciting use for your products!

      I doubt you’ll be mentioning this in advertisements, though. ;)

      Thanks for the comment, Kaia. :)

  7. Bless you, DD! I’m writing a story now with a heroine who’s a closeted sadist and I’ve been wondering about implements I could introduce. This is PERFECT!

    Keep up the great writing and sharing! xo~Jenny

    • I’m writing a story now with a heroine who’s a closeted sadist and I’ve been wondering about implements I could introduce. This is PERFECT!

      I’m not sure that’s believable.

      I mean, who would believe that a closeted sadist would just happen to buy one of these things and then happen to realize they could be used as a fantastically sadistic implement? I mean, it’s so far-fetched…

      Oh wait… Ok. Maybe it could happen. ;)

      (You know, I’d ask you to name some minor character after me if I didn’t go by Dumb Domme. Ha!)

  8. I’d rather stick needles in myself ………. er emmm yes well I suppose so

  9. Ouchie, but rather fascinating

  10. Ahhh… It’s moments like these when I wish my boy was more of a masochist. That toy looks so devilishly evil that I soooo wanna try it out. But my boy would take one look at it and scream “FUCK NO!!! HARD LIMIT!!!!”

    So yeah… maybe I just hate you a little, right now. ;)

    • But my boy would take one look at it and scream “FUCK NO!!! HARD LIMIT!!!!”

      Aw… that’s a shame. These things really are lots of fun. :)

      So yeah… maybe I just hate you a little, right now. ;)

      Ha! I’m okay with it, as long as it’s just a little and it’s for the right reasons. :)

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